Your City Council: Safeway Shopping Center Steps Closer to Hercules
Hercules Patch reports live on the January 24, 2012 Hercules City Council meeting.
Safeway is on the road to opening shop in Hercules. The Hercules City Council passed a resolution Thursday to finalize a purchase and sale agreement for with developers from the grocery store chain for the Sycamore Crossing lot.
“This is a site that we’ve looked at for many years so we’re anxious to proceed and move forward with great haste,” said David Zylstra, Chief Operating Officer of Property Development Centers, LLC., the shopping center development arm of Safeway.
If the city is able to negotiate past a deed restriction on the site sell the site, Property Development Centers would develop Sycamore Crossing into a 55,000 to 65,000-square-foot Safeway store with a gas station and adjacent shops.
The gross sale price would be about $9.3, city records show. But certain pre-sale expenses to the city, including the cost of dirt removal from the site, could bring proceeds down to as low as $5 million, the records show.
Safeway would also bring in roughly half a million dollars in property taxes to the city each year, City Manager Steve Duran said.
Sycamore Crossing sits at San Pablo and Sycamore avenues, next door to Sycamore North.
Councilwoman Myrna DeVera pointed out that the city’s original vision plan for Sycamore Crossing—which involved a mix of retail, residential and office spaces—looked very different than the Safeway plan.
“We put together a plan that we know is economically viable and one that can actually be developed,” Zylstra said. “That’s something that the council, the planning commission and the community is going to have to review because the (original vision plan) is not a plan that we will be pursuing,” he added.
Ultimately, all five council members supported the purchase of sale agreement. Mayor Dan Romero said he has been disappointed with the city’s lone grocery store—Lucky. He said it would be good for the business to have a competitor in town.
Romero also brought up a concern he had with the way the agreement was written: it proposed that the planned Safeway would receive power through the Hercules Municipal Utility, which has historically been heavily subsidized by the city. An amendment was then made to the agreement that said that if Safeway used HMU for electricity, it would have a net zero cost to the city.
By approving the agreement, the council authorized City Manager Steve Duran to work with the company through the design and entitlement phase, close escrow and make sure all agreements and permits are honored during construction.
The Meeting:
8:30, CITY MANAGER REPORTS AND RESOLUTIONS
1. Adopt A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Finalize And Execute A
Purchase And Sale Agreement With Property Development Centers For The
Sycamore Crossing Site For The Development Of A Safeway Anchored Shopping
Center--PASSES 5-0 WITH AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS HMU ELEMENT OF THE DEAL.
2. Consider A Request From The Friends Of The Hercules Library For A Waiver Of
Banner Fees--COUNCIL DIRECTS STAFF NOT TO WAIVE FEES.
3. Adopt A Resolution Approving And Authorizing The Execution Of A Termination Of Affordable Housing Agreement Between The City And The Redevelopment
Agency Of The City Of Hercules For The Sycamore North Project--PASSES 5-0
4. Adopt A Resolution Approving A Funding Program From Wastewater Revenue Bonds And Authorizing Execution Of A Contract In The Amount Of $298,780 With BKF Engineering For Design Services The Intermodal Transit Center Project--PASSES 5-0
5. Receive Report Regarding Election Of City Finance Director Or City Treasurer--COUNCIL DISCUSSED POSSIBILITY, BUT DID NOT MAKE A DECISION.
6. Adopt A Resolution Determining That The Sale Of The Hercules Municipal Utility Is In The Public Interest And Necessity Pursuant To Article 2, Chapter 1, Division 5 Of The California Public Utilities Code (Section 10051 Et. Seq.) And Directing Staff To Notice A Public Hearing And First Reading For The Adoption Of An Ordinance Calling For A Special Election On June 5, 2012, To Obtain Public Approval For The Sale Of The Utility--PASSES 5-0
7. Adopt A Resolution In Support Of The Proposed Bayfront Intermodal Transit Center Project And Directing Staff To Update And Revise As Necessary The Funding Plan For Submittal To The Contra Costa Transportation Authority With A Request To Advance Measure J Funds To Phase I Of The Project--PASSES 5-0
7:58, CITY COUNCIL REPORTS AND RESOLUTIONS
1. Conduct Discussion And Authorize Recruitment For All Vacancies And Expiring
Terms On The Various City Commissions, Committees And Boards And Schedule
Date And Time For Candidate Interviews--PASSES 5-0
2. Receive Report And Conduct Discussion Regarding The Approved Locations For
Posting Of Political Signs On Public Property--CITY WILL INCREASE NUMBER OF PUBLIC PLACES TO POST POLITICAL SIGNS AND ELIMINATE ONE OF THE AREAS.
7:52, PUBLIC HEARING
1. Adopt A Resolution Amending The City Of Hercules Master Fee Schedule To Include An Administrative Charge Of An Amount Not To Exceed $20.00 For The Inspection And Certification Of Correctable Traffic And Parking Citations Issued By Agencies Outside Of The Hercules City Limits--PASSES 5-0
7:33, CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Adopt A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Negotiate And Execute An
Amendment To The Existing Agreement With Charles A. Long For Advisory And
Project Management Services, Extending The Term By One Month To February 29, 2012 And Authorizing An Additional Expenditure Of An Amount Not To Exceed
$5,000, Bringing The Total Maximum Expenditure Under The Amended Agreement To $75,000--PASSES 5-0
Discussion: "We are very close to wrapping up two things...The remaining work is finalizing negotiations and finalizing our funding plan...We are hoping those things will come to fruition in February," said City Manager Steve Duran.
2. Adopt A Resolution Authorizing The City Manager To Execute An Amendment To An Existing Agreement With Art McAuley Solutions, For An Amount Not To Exceed $60,000, To Provide Energy, Utility Operations Management--PASSES 5-0
Discussion: "Mr. McAuley has been invaluable to us...Not only is (he) running the utility but he is doing a lot of the legwork" in determining what to do next with the HMU, acting Assistant City Manager Liz Warmerdam said. The city is looking at either trying to sell or lease the utility. "We have been very clear that we're selling HMU. It's going to be very difficult to retain staff knowing that they'll be out of a job" in a few months, Warmerdam said in response to Councilman Gerard Boulanger's request to provide incentives to contractors like McAuley to sell the HMU.
7:22, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS
A representative of Local 159 who wants to see the waterfront project "move forward as soon as possible."
Sarah Creeley, the resident and local school teacher talks about upcoming events at the Hercules Public Library. Go to HerculesLibrary.com to make a donation to the establishment.
Steve Kirby, Mentions citywide garage sale coming up to benefit the library. Also, in June, the city will celebrate library fund raising successes. In October, the library will hold another dinner-dance. Library fundraisers are interested in coordinating efforts with the Relay for Life volunteers.
7:10, CITY OF HERCULES INTRODUCTIONS/PRESENTATIONS
1. Receive Presentation Regarding The Doctors Medical Center Stroke Program
The program involves prevention, identification and treatment. Signs and symptoms: 1) Acute weakness; 2) Difficulty with speaking; 3) Acute inability to talk/walk/dizziness; 4) Acute vision loss; 5) Headaches
7:08, Tonight's moment of silence is for all victims of domestic violence, Mayor Dan Romero.
7:06 p.m., Reportable action from closed session: None. A discussion about Hercules Bayfront will be deferred to later this evening.
Susan D.Keeffe
11:29 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Great comment by resident Phil Simmons. In the interest of transparency, I too would like to see a different structure allowing the Council both community input and it's ability to report out everything but what is strictly required by the Briwn Act.
Douglas Bright
6:34 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
It is absolutely essential that the public weigh in on the design proposals for this Safeway deal. I fear that Sycamore Crossing is in danger of getting the "Szabo plan" treatment. Arguments will be made that the city needs to be pragmatic and swallow the bitter pill of poor design in the name of chasing revenue, but we would be shooting ourselves in the foot if we sell out our future in exchange for short term, short-sighted goals.
Perhaps I am wrong, and the designs that will be submitted by Property Development Centers will be a grand departure from the Safeway template of a large, obtrusive big box store with tacky post-modern ornamentation to make it somewhat less ugly, surrounded by a moat of asphalt parking...but something tells me that is beyond their scope of abilities. I think this might turn into a contentious fight among those in Hercules who only see (projected) dollar signs from this project and will take any deal they can get, and those who care more about long term sustainability, quality of life, and aesthetic values.
Chris Kelley
6:51 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
RE: Sycamore Crossing. To encourage walkability, how about placing the buildings (grocery store, restaurants, homes) on the outer edges of the parcel and then put parking in the center--courtyard style? Maybe some parking could even go underground, as the new Berkeley Bowl has done.
Susan D.Keeffe
8:19 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I share Douglsd's concern especially since it was stated they were not planning on following the City designs. However, there will be public input meetings and it must go through the Plannimg Commission It will be vital the community show up for those meetings and speak up.
Kim
9:48 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Can't it go where Market Hall is now?
Phil Simmons
11:48 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
No
Aazoba Yuzuki
3:31 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
lot is small
Susan D.Keeffe
10:40 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Kim ,
No, it can 't. The City no longer owns that property. In another of its previous wasteful moves it gave the property to Red Barn who promptly mortgaged it. Even if Safeway liked the site, it's negotiations would be with Red Barn It was stated they considered all possible sites including Parcel C and Sycamore Crossing is the ideal site for them. The concern is to get them to build something that conforms to the City's plan which apparently is not their intention.
Douglas Bright
10:46 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I agree that Market Hall would've been a better location, though I doubt Safeway could fit the mammoth proportions of their store, plus surface parking, on that lot. I wonder how it was decided that the original vision plan for Sycamore Crossing (IPDP) was not economically feasible. I heard this from the city manager & from Safeway. Obviously, Safeway has a biased opinion – they are not in the business of building attractive new urbanist shopping/residential areas – but where is the city manager getting this idea from? Perhaps someone from the city staff could to explain the source of this opinion to the public. The numbers I'm reading from the National Association of Realtors & the East Bay Economic Development Alliance show commercial property vacancy rates falling – and expected to trend downward throughout the year. Of course, there is always a market for residential properties in this area, albeit rentals at the moment. So I am curious as to what aspect of the IPDP is deemed economically unfeasible and on what authority. I would expect the market for dense mixed use developments to be positive this year.
There is certainly a large pent-up demand for local retail in the neighborhoods along Sycamore, west of San Pablo Ave. The Waterfront development is dense, mixed use too, just like the IPDP envisions. The city does not seem to have a problem with the economic feasibility of that project – why is the Waterfront vision okay, but the Sycamore Crossing vision not?
mommysquared
10:59 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
EXCITING NEWS! As a resident here for 7+ years I am thrilled to see that Safeway is coming to town. Like Mayor Romero stated we need another place to food shop and maybe this will make Lucky upgrade/update itself.
To the naysayers what are you looking for to happen in this town? We need the tax money and having retail here will bring that ... Safeway is a great way to add income to our city's coffers .... have you been to the latest store in El Cerrito? It is worth a trip to see what the store in Hercules might be like ... what a wonderful food shopping experience! I am all for the plans to add this food shopping retailer with what it has planned to bring including restaurants and other small shops.
I am thankful there are still big businesses that see the possiblity of working in Hercules and what that will mean to us as residents.
Congratulations to our city council and city manager for working to help make this a reality...
Susan D.Keeffe
11:13 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
@ Stauffer,
I actually agree with your statements. Dan Romero is correct it is good to have competition. My concern is with the appearance of the building. We definitely need the tax revenues estimated at $500k a year. The building design, however, should conform to the City's plan. I hope Safeway will be respectful of that plan and of the concerns of the residents.
Phil Simmons
11:54 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I hope that when Safeway is complete that the sales they have are on alternating days with Lucky. Since no grocery store puts everything on sale at the same time it would be great to go to Lucky to buy our dairy products and bread products and on the same day go over to Safeway to get the veggies and canned goods. Of course that still leaves Trader Joe's and Costco for all the other items. But at least that could cut the shopping down from 3 days to 2 days.
Toni Leance
12:21 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
they (Safeway) never gave a good reason why parcel c wasn't good for them. Just from a traffic perspective there is a 4 lane road on John Muir to access the site the road at Sycamore is narrow and at SN is really just two lanes I fear traffic congestion at Sycamore and San Pablo. Also on parcel C there are more parking opportunities then at Sycamore Crossing. I would like a better answer as to why parcel c isn't good. Aslo a gas station is a problem next to the residential it isn't good planning and should not be allowed. Again I ask the question what is the cost to the city to remove the deed restriction on Sycamore Crossing? There isn't any deed restriction on parcel C.
Susan D.Keeffe
2:10 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Toni,
What do we know re the deed restriction? Was it from Lucky's?
Phil Simmons
2:17 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I may be wrong but my guess is the deed restriction did not transfer with the deed from Albertsons to Lucky and Albertsons no longer has any stake in the matter. A Safeway built in Hercules is one less Safeway built in Alberstons backyard somewhere.
Don't know though. I suspect the question is or will be resolved in any event otherwise Safeway would not be looking.
Hector Rubio
7:01 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I vaguely recall that the property was owned by American Stores; they tore down the existing little league fields to build a shopping center with Lucky's as the main tenant. As such, American Store put a deed restriction on the property that no competing supermarket could be built there. Albertsons bought American Store; and the City bought the land. Fast forward to today, and American Store does not exist, but their deed restriction lives on prohibiting the construction of a supermarket on that land. I have no clue on how this gets cleared up.
Phil Simmons
10:19 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Hector,
ummm, I suppose if Safeway is dumb enough to buy the land with a restriction that prevents them from building let's let them do it. We will have the money they will have the land and some day they will have to sell it for some other purpose.
Or, more realistically, I suspect the deed restriction has been handled in some way.
Tim Craig
2:41 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I'm confused about the design review aspect of the project-will there be anything submitted to the Planning Commission for critique and approval/disapproval or is this lining up as a "fast-track" vote (rubber stamp) by the City Council? I will be very disappointed if it's the latter given this type of behavior from the previous Council.
Kim
3:19 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
The El Cerrito store sold me too - it's like heaven! I'm wondering if Safeway will close Pinole or Rodeo?
Glenn Abraham
3:39 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Or both. And then we can absorb all the traffic which used to flow to Pinole and Rodeo from us and from their own populations and from their own surrounding areas. Unlike Pinole and Rodeo, though, we will be drawing all of that traffic to our greatest choke point. How bad can it get? Stay tuned.
Eric Williams
3:25 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Would everyone feel differently if Whole Foods had approached the city?
I'd like to see what's being proposed before declaring the project morally and ethically irresponsible. I've sen some of Safeway's new, "lifestyle" markets on the peninsula. They're basically Whole Foods clones. I wouldn't mind having one here.
Depending on the design: parking and filling station in the back of the property with a relevant facade facing Sycamore North: appropriate architectural design elements and an emphasis on creating street-side pedestrian environments and visually balancing the mass of Sycamore North across the street.
I agree with Toni about parcel C too.
Aazoba Yuzuki
3:34 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
FYI - there are many ugly looking safeways in neighborhoods with million dollar homes
Susan D.Keeffe
4:50 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
There will be public meetings and it does have to go to the Planning Commission. We will have opportunities for input. I think an upscale Safeway would benefit Hercules but I feel it must comply with the City's master plan.
Douglas Bright
6:15 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Great places are not created by chance but by choice. We have to demand the design we deserve to live in. If Safeway wants to toss aside the design guidelines of 2010, then they better have something better in mind.
Tim Craig
7:09 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I'm heartened by what you said, Susan, and agree with Douglas.
Having worked for the "losing" side of a building design debate in Rockridge in the late 80's/early 90's (ironically across the street from the current Safeway proposed for a major overhaul), I can say that community involvement was a HUGE factor that ended up with a far more palatable exterior design.
I also agree with Glenn that the current traffic circulation along San Pablo, Sycamore and even Willow will only be exacerbated by a Safeway of this proportion. I'll be curious if our Planning department, as required under CEQA, will classify the environmental effects of this development as a "negative declaration", meaning no significant environmental effects.
At the very least, Safeway should be required to do an EIR that requires a full traffic study. If a negative dec is declared and no EIR is required, we'll know the fix is in.
Hector Rubio
7:12 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I agree with Eric, let's see Safeway's proposal first and keep an open mind.
Jeffrey Boore
8:53 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
In my view, the most important design criterion is that there cannot be a sea of parking on the corner of Sycamore and San Pablo. That would influence the character of that corner in a way that would destroy any possibility for an urban-style development on what is now the defunct Market Hall and severely degrade the area of Sycamore Crossing that would be behind the store.
Hector Rubio
11:47 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Totally agree with your comment Jeffrey, a sea of parking at that intersection would create yet another anonymous neighborhood shopping center like the others already in town.
Susan D.Keeffe
10:03 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
We need to attend the meetings when they come up and speak up. It seems the citizens iHercules must remain vigilant for a long time to come. I'm so looking forward to the time I can go back to watching Council meetings on TV and being bored.
Selina Williams
4:44 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
I've been really busy with the start of tax season, working late at night. I'll be back though.
Aazoba Yuzuki
11:01 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
is Safeway the only interested party wanting to setup shop in Hercules? I would have preferred Winco's (closest one is in pittsburg/antioch area)
Hector Rubio
11:44 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
@Aazoba, I know that Fresh & Easy from SoCal is looking for locations in the East Bay and considered Hercules. They were looking to open a shop in Market Town, but as we all learned Red Barn was not up to the task. They settled for Concord & Walnut Creek, as well as a few locations in San Francisco. Perhaps they will lease some space from Jim Anderson at the waterfront instead?
Selina Williams
4:41 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
We need to know why this proposal includes a gas station. Why, why, why!
Other than that my main objection to this location is that Safeway does not a town center make. So, I guess Hercules will not have a town center. That's cool. We will wait for the waterfront and walk there instead.
I agree with Toni that Parcel C would have been better as far for traffic flow. But, the views are great there so its better for a nice restaurant and residential or hotel with views of the bay, if any are left, after the waterfront is built. I would have preferred a Wholefoods on SC for all the reasons I previously stated. Service, organics, sourced products, fair trade, excellent and inspiring deli food. Though, I think a "main street" with small shops, a bakery, butcher, green grocer, farmers market etc in a town center with cafes and other shops, as was planned is better for the quality of life in Hercules.
I think the stalled Rockridge store is an example of Safeway's inability to accommodate design alternatives. Those are very educated, vocal and activist folks there and if they cant get the design changed what chance is there for Hercules.
Ken Pezzotti
9:44 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
I too am not happy with a Safeway gas station added to this location (the new El Cerrito Safeway does not have one) and as a resident of Bayside, I'm concerned with people pushing shopping carts home & leaving them in the alleyways. Hopefully Safeway can install a device that 'lock' the shopping cart wheels if they get 100 yards from the store.
Susan D.Keeffe
7:02 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012
At this point, knowing there will be public meetings and the plans will be coming before the Planning Commission, I'm going to reserve any criticisms I have. I am not, unlike most others who have posted here, opposed to a gas station. I support competition and Shell has a monopoly here at this time. My concerns are for the aesthetics, parking and traffic flow, all of which will have to be addressed by an EIR. Is anyone happy with our current solitary supermarket? Let's wait to see what we learn at the meetings when they are announced.
Shelley Cordes
11:34 am on Monday, January 30, 2012
I so hate Safeway and their quality. Why can we not get a grocery store that has great produce, clean environment, and wonderful interiors with bakery, meats, fish, specialty stuff. Safeway has never had a good reputation in any of these areas. What's the deal. No one else wants great food in this town? Not even a good restaurant?
Ani
6:00 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
We used to have Raley's. It apparently did not make enough profit to justify staying here. However, the Raley's in El Sobrante seems to be thriving.
Shelley Cordes
12:07 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Yes, I was here when Raley's was here, long before all the houses were in place accross San Pablo Ave. There is no excuse for not attracting quality stores and restaurants. It's all about a lazy City Council. Plain and simple.
Toni Leance
6:46 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
It seems to me Mr Duran is pushing this through as quickly as possible tying to shore up the general fund bleed as quickly as possible at the expence of the Waterfront. Mr Duran we are not Richmond any and all development is not good it has to be within the neo-traditional master plan invisioned for the Waterfront and for Hercules. A Safeway and a gas station which will generate tax dollars is not good enough to forget the principals of neo-traditional town planning. Big Boxes and Gas Stations will not make Hercules unique or improve and move forward the waterfront.
Safeway was very clear that it is their way or the highway and that is an attitude I don't appriciate and I hope our council will think long and hard on this one I am disapointed that they went forward with a sales agreement without answers to many questions. Shame on them.
Glenn Abraham
7:07 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
Building that Safeway (and its gas pumps and its parking) at the physical and traffic heart of Hercules will do much to ensure that Hercules becomes just one more irrelevant town with stores and houses and traffic and nothing worth visiting and no particular reason to exist. Building a jumbo Safeway at the corner of Sycamore and San Pablo will do much to push Hercules down the slide to mediocrity. It is stunning that this sale to Safeway has moved so far, so fast, in spite of its mutilation of our supposedly-revered plans for this town.
Jeffrey Boore
8:38 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
I agree with Toni and Glenn here. I am amazed that our city could abandon the master plan for Sycamore Crossing in favor of this in closed sessions without any opportunity for community input. Safeway should brace themselves for the public outcry against them. We killed Walmart, Franklin Canyon development, and the Szabo Plan. Safeway should conform to our new urbanism vision or get in that line for public resistance against them.
Must the public fight this city for every increment of development to conform to our city's own master plan?
Carol
12:43 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
The master plan you mention was designed under a different market and it is not going to fly in this market today so we need to adjust away from that. We would all like to see the original plan, but be real. I think our city will be lucky to avoid bankruptcy. We need to liquidate and move on.
Glenn Abraham
12:49 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Once they build that Safeway, there won't be anywhere to move on to.
Douglas Bright
2:08 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
@Carol: Where is the report that says there is no market for mixed use, pedestrian scale development? People sometimes say that, but it seems they are just repeating something they heard somewhere from someone they don't remember. I'm not saying the claim is false. But I have never heard of any authoritative source that decreed the market will not support this kind of development now or for the foreseeable future.
Glenn Abraham
2:17 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
The "market" is temporary, and so are our financial difficulties. At the moment, we still have options for the direction which Hercules will take. Once that Safeway is built, in the heart of Hercules, it's over, and our destiny (houses and chain stores) will be set forever. Even after the market changes, that Safeway will still be there, sucking in traffic.
Jeffrey Boore
4:51 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
@Carol - I understand that the market has changed. I have some resistance to giving in to make a permanent fix to a temporary problem, but that is a debate where reasonable arguments can be made for either side. But even if we were to accept that we must move forward with a different plan than had been created for Sycamore North, I think that it would be appropriate to give the public an opportunity to comment and deliberate before making a snap decision in closed sessions about how to change that plan.
Glenn Abraham
10:54 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
Suburban towns are derided as places where people just sleep. If we can build a lot of big, generic, already-built-nearby chain stores like Safeway, we can dream of becoming a place where people shop, then sleep.
Douglas Bright
7:21 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Everyone should just calm down. I am confident that Safeway's crack team of expert designers are already creating a monument of architectural beauty that they are known around the world for. In fact, I've come across a preliminary design that Safeway will propose shortly to the Planning Commission. I uploaded the pdf into the Patch Gallery
Selina Williams
11:00 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Funny.
Hector Rubio
4:32 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Got a good chuckle from that image.
Shelley Cordes
12:12 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
So, Douglas, do you actually know the architect, planners, and designers from Safeway? What is on paper and what is actually built can be two different things if we have no over sight or input. "Architectural beauty"? What dream world do you live in. Calm down? After what has just happened in this town. Wishful thinking at best.
Douglas Bright
2:09 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
I was being sarcastic.
Shelley Cordes
12:18 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
PS. The Gallery pic is exactly what I mean.
mommysquared
1:25 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
I'm sorry, where do you live, oh yeah Hercules, you know that suburban town just East of Pinole and West of Rodeo...it's not BlackHawke or Beverly Hills right?
Having a Safeway will be a good addition to our town for the tax revenue it will bring. Not it may not fit the original design for a downtown but let's face it folks that train left the station with Sakamoto and Oliva and all their gang.
Let's be happy that we have developers coming to our city and bringing with them useful and needed stores. Have any of you nay sayers been to a new Safeway? Maybe you should go check it out before you go viral online.
Yes, I agree Safeway should follow design standards set by the Hercules Planning Commission. Yes they are not following the 2010 design since it is not the little cafe and shop set up it was once dreamed to be.
Let's not forget bringing tax revenue to our almost bankrupt city is a good thing ... remember city services including police and fire are paid through city budgets. Tax revenues help keep a city a float.
There is still questions regarding what the building would look like, have you been to Walnut Creek, Emeryville, Corte Madera, Dublin or Livermore ... all of these cities have a shopping center with the main tenant a Safeway ... they seem to do okay.
Lastly let's wait and see what they propose before we get all our panties in a wad.
What about the shops they plan to go alongside Sycamore North? Did you see that info?
Selina Williams
3:00 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Really!? Wait and see?! Hmm, hows that worked out in the past? Are you aware of the fact that $6 million dollars of local taxes from Victoria by the Bay, which represents 40% of the city property taxes, goes to a multinational corporation that was part of an immense money laundering ponzi scheme that has bankrupted Hercules?
These deals were made while the citizens were waiting for ?
Jeffrey Boore
4:57 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
I think the biggest problem is that we have not "seen that info." The public hasn't seen anything yet, and we should have prior to these decisions being made that so greatly affect the character of our town.
By the way - Those are nice towns, but we can do better in terms of new urbanism, and there is no reason to lose sight of that vision. It is not necessarily more expensive to build or live that way, and it is the best plan for both people and the environment.
Selina Williams
3:04 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Its really cynical to say that only folks in Blackhawk or Beverly hills should desire healthy, locally sourced, non-GMO products and options for shopping. Last time I checked, Hercules had a median income of ~$90K and was not a ghetto (yet).
Aazoba Yuzuki
8:28 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012
call FRY's and see if they want to setup shop in hercules, they will bring tons of traffic and less from best buy (which is way overpriced and lack service), Frys would help put hercules on the "map"